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Post by feduptro on Jun 20, 2012 12:03:39 GMT -5
Well, let me be clear. First of all I completely 100% disagree with corporations getting any type of taxpayer funded subsidies.
Also, income taxes were originally ONLY supposed to be imposed on businesses - not on individual persons. If income taxes were revised to include only corporations, they would be paying their taxes properly. Most people already HAVE a living wage, especially if they didn't have to pay something as punitive as income taxes on their personal income. Furthermore, I would almost garauntee you that all these so-called minimum wage earners are getting the earned income credit - some get more back in taxes than they actually even paid.
A bit more about the income tax. When a business pays income taxes, they do not pay it on REVENUE, they pay it on actual net income - after expenses of doing business are deducted. Unfortunately, we the individuals, are too stupid to complain that WE'RE being taxed on revenue (our full paycheck) and not allowed deduct our operating expenses for necessities like housing, food, car, government mandated car insurance (and soon health insurance), etc.
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Post by NYS Techie on Jun 20, 2012 12:16:40 GMT -5
Fed Up, we may have argued in the past (I dig a good argument) but as long as someone doesn't behave evilly towards me I don't hold grudges. I respect other people's opinions, even if I might disagree vigorously with them. I agree with you that the tea party started out as a good thing. I just think it's become something very different since then. Now it's a right-wing, bigoted, petty-minded hate organization. That was done TO it on purpose by giant public relations firms flexing their grassroots muscle. I don't think occupy has been completely co-opted yet, but perhaps it's only a matter of time. It'll be a shame if it happens. For an example of someone who got on my permanent shit list, there's Government Gangsters, head mouthpiece of the Yes Voter coalition. That guy really pissed me right off. Everything's personal with him, he can't argue ANYTHING without going for the ad hominem. But you're A-OK in my book. I agree with most of what you write, you know. You haven't heard about it because I've chosen to stop posting on the TU blogs. It's just no fun over there; people are too mean, nobody wants to talk facts and logic, everyone gets so bent out of shape, and the paper itself is very hit and miss when it comes to moderation. It's nicer here, anyway. Welcome!
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Post by uncivilservant on Jun 21, 2012 6:58:03 GMT -5
My economic reforms -
1: Capital gains are income, counted and taxed as such.
2: Business expenses are non-deductable
3: Governments may not borrow money if they already owe more than 10% of their annual tax revenue intake.
4: Anything imported into the US must have been made according to the industrial regulations and labor laws of the United States at every step along the process from resource extraction to assembly and shipping. Anything missing proper documentation to this effect is to be sent back to the country of origin. (I was going to say confiscated and destroyed, but this would violate the takings clause of the constitution).
5: To apply for an H1-B or other guest worker visa, a company must first hire and train two citizens to do the job in question.
6: Stocks and bonds are transferrable only on issuance and death. Commodity trading is only valid if the purchacer takes physical possession of the commodity in question and moves it to a facility they own for the purpose of use.
7: Financial instruments which cannot be understood by the average citizen are illegal as fraud and any funds generated through their sale or transfer are subject to confiscation as illicit gains.
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Post by feduptro on Jun 21, 2012 7:31:16 GMT -5
5) HB-1 visa... they hire people for grade 18 IT jobs in our own state of NY government. How can we require companies to train and use US citizens when our own government doesn't. Does anyone smell something fishy that we have HB-1 foreigners in decent paying TAXPAYER FUNDED jobs when unemployment for US citizens is so high? And no one can tell me that there's no US citizen that wants or needs a IT specialist 2 job or is qualified for it. Plus, all the permits and possibly fees that the state is paying to get these people here?
Why aren't taxpayers outrages about this? In an IT group of about 25, we had no less than 3 of the HB-1's here from India and china, not including consultants (which were 75% non-US citizens, also from India and china).
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Post by uncivilservant on Jun 21, 2012 7:46:03 GMT -5
If these are actually Visa workers, report your agency to Civil Service as the state does not sponser visa applicants. If these people are actually legal residents instead of H1-Bs, the state is an equal opportunity employer.
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Post by feduptro on Jun 21, 2012 8:20:19 GMT -5
I don't know. I do know they have to go home every year for over a month and take time off work (via leave of absence) and one told me she was only doing it until she got her green card so she can bring her kids over from India and come and go from the US any time she wants. Doesn't sound like a legal resident situation, but a visa. She also told me when she got laid off before she had to go home for like 2 years or something before she could return.
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Post by feduptro on Jun 21, 2012 8:22:35 GMT -5
Not to get too off topic, but am I supposed to see state worker areas? I can only see the public areas...
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Post by Darth Stateworker on Jun 21, 2012 9:11:42 GMT -5
The state worker areas will appear for you automatically when you reach the correct forum rank based on your post count.
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Post by feduptro on Jun 21, 2012 9:38:11 GMT -5
Hmm okay... It's just that there is not all that much to see in the public area and I don't have much I can intelligently add to some of those conversations. Post counts are good, but what about weighed post counts? Anyone can spam...
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